Barbara Rainey has discovered that holidays are perfect teaching opportunities for families.

I think our children intuitively know that there's something important.

Otherwise, why are we celebrating?

They sense that there's some meaning behind this thing called Thanksgiving.

There's something important behind this holiday called Christmas.

This is the Reviver Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgamuth, author of Choosing Gratitude.

For November 17th, 2021, I'm Dana Gresh.

I'm Dana Gresh.

Believe it or not, Thanksgiving is almost here, and Christmas is just over a month away. The time between now and then could either be a roller coaster of busyness or a meaningful time

of focusing on Jesus. What will it look like for you? Nancy wants to help you make the

Thanksgiving and Christmas seasons more meaningful. Here she is to introduce today's guest.

I was having dinner with some friends in their home the other night.

They have four little children, and they said to me in the midst of the conversation,

so we are trying to figure out what in the world we can do to keep Christmas Christ-centered.

And we started talking about all the activities in the weeks ahead and with their little children,

how to make it not all about getting gifts, but about giving and Christ.

And I was so glad to have that conversation as a preparation for the conversation we're having today with my longtime friend, Barbara Rainey.

Barbara, welcome to revive our hearts.

Thank you, Nancy. It's great to be here. And you are like the queen of making holidays special and meaningful. And I've followed you over the years as you've tried to invest in families

and kind of sounded a trumpet for not just

letting holidays be meaningless or secular, but having them be really Christ-centered.

So it's just so timely as we're heading into Thanksgiving now, and these next several

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