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🗓️ 26 August 2025
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In 2000, as the internet expanded, websites faced a growing challenge to stop spam bots from flooding their systems.
To separate humans from machines, researchers at the United States’ Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, created the Completely Automated Public Turing test.
From its early development to its evolution into reCAPTCHA it continues to block millions of automated attacks every day.
Ashley Byrne speaks to computer scientist Andrei Broder, who played a key role in developing the concepts that helped shape this technology.
A Made in Manchester production.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Rory Stewart and I grew up wanting to be a hero and I'm still fascinated by the ideas of heroism. |
| 0:08.9 | In my new series, I'm taking in the long sweep of history from Achilles to Zelensky and asking, what is a hero? |
| 0:16.1 | Simply doing your job, being a decent human being. |
| 0:20.0 | A true hero is someone who just kind of shines by |
| 0:23.1 | their own light and that light is to be recognised by others. The Long History of Heroism |
| 0:27.8 | with me, Rory Stewart. Listen on BBC Sounds. Hello and welcome to Witness History from the BBC World Service with me, Ashley Byrne. |
| 0:43.2 | I'm taking you back 25 years to the first incarnation of an internet security tool |
| 0:48.7 | which would go on to have a huge impact on all our lives. |
| 0:52.6 | We're remembering the birth of capture, which can be traced |
| 0:56.0 | back to a discussion between engineers and scientists on a terrace in the heart of Silicon Valley. |
| 1:06.0 | So we're just on the balcony and starting to sing, okay, we can do optical character recognition |
| 1:13.3 | OCR, but it's probably difficult to do if you are mixing the fonts, if letters are not |
| 1:20.8 | a line. |
| 1:22.0 | So we decided, okay, that's what we have to use. |
| 1:25.2 | The combination of things that make things difficult for optical character recognition. |
| 1:31.3 | The only thing that came to our mind that would be easy to generate |
| 1:35.0 | would be essentially to do, I recognize some text. |
| 1:41.0 | That's Andre Broder, a computer scientist whose early work on text distortion for spam prevention |
| 1:47.3 | helped shape ideas that would later influence capture. |
| 1:55.8 | It was the late 1990s and the internet was still in its infancy. |
| 2:02.3 | At the time, Romanian-born Andre Broder was a young computer scientist specializing in algorithms and web search. |
| 2:08.7 | He'd moved to California where he was working with the early search engine, Altar Vista. |
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