You hear that music in the background?

This is a very special episode.

I'm thrilled to be able to introduce you today to Donna Grantus.

So after the opening, after you get to meet her, after the entire interview, you'll have the opportunity to listen to the entire track, uninterrupted, end to end.

And for those of you watching on YouTube, you'll also get to see it.

This was a performance that was recorded live in Toronto at a climate event, featuring the words of Zippora Berman,

who I interviewed back in September of 2022 to talk about all of her work, to really put to bed

the fossil fuel proliferation or reliance on fossil fuels. And so this is one part climate activism,

one part music appreciation,

and such a treat as we get to know somebody who's using their arts for good. I'm just thrilled to be able to introduce you to her today, and I encourage you to stick around for the end of the

episode when you'll get to listen to the entire track and to end. Here we go. Welcome to Care More

Be Better, a podcast for people like you who care about the social impact of conscious companies

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vote with your dollars, and get involved today. Here's your host, Karina Belizzi.

Hello, fellow do-goaters and friends. I'm your host, Karina Belizzi. If you've been listening

to this show since at least September 2022, you likely heard

an interview with Sappora Berman, founder of stand. Earth. She's also a leader in the movement

to stop fossil fuel proliferation. You may also recall that an incredible musician, Donna Grantus,

sampled Sappora's words from that interview, playing it on stage at a live

climate event in Toronto, Ontario. That music has now been released as a track called A Drop in the Bucket.

I have a real treat for you today as Donna is joining me to talk about her efforts.

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