Anytime a minority wants change to happen in this country, and by a minority I mean a minority of people who hold a specific believer believe that change should happen.

They have to convince a lot of people and a lot of their legislators to believe the same thing in order for that to actually get done.

You saw it with the fight for gay marriage.

I mean that took, it felt like it was an overnight success but

that took 30 years of organizing and 30 years of convincing hearts and minds even

and even when the majority of the country believed that it should have been done, you know, it took a Supreme Court decision.

So like it is really difficult and I have the utmost respect for the people who can show up, you know, like,

hear the conspiracy theorists talk about,

you know, how much they're evil people

and, yeah, really, you know,

and the atrocities that people kind of accuse our government workers of doing and

and still believe in the cause and show up to get it done every day. I'm Sreni Rao and this is the unmistakable creative

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