the business side of things is creativity.

Even the marketing side of it is expression and learning to connect with people.

And so it's actually something that I've learned to love too because the marketing side of my work,

yes, sometimes I have to direct people to buy my books or something like that. But it's also learning how to get

people engaged with my art. Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the show,

the Chase Travis Live show. You know the show where I sit down with Amazing Humans and today's

amazing human is Whitney Hanson. If you are not familiar with Whitney's work,

she is a poet. And at just 22 years old, and I mentioned her age specifically for a reason,

because she is one of the wisest, most heartfelt, earnest 22-year-olds I have ever spoken to.

It is so impressive, the work that she's done,

the depth of the work at such a young age that this is one of the reasons that I wanted to

have her on the show. The combination of such beautiful work at such a young age is so inspiring

and really, really insightful. We talk a lot about her creative process, and in

doing so, I feel like we gain an insight that we haven't had on the show in a long time. Her

vulnerability, her authenticity, her ability to connect with her work, and share that with us

today on the show in a very straightforward way is incredibly

valuable and, as I said, insightful. So I'm going to get out of the way yours truly and the incredible

poet, Whitney Hanson.

Whitney, thank you very much for joining us. Welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm excited to be here.

I'm wondering if for those who might not be familiar with you or your work, I'm wondering if you can tell us a little bit about yourself, your background, how you, you know, how you describe yourself, because I've just, you know,

given them a lovely intro with your background, but it's always better coming from the guest.

So tell me a little bit about yourself and help our audience get acquainted.

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