Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Radical Canter Podcast. I'm Kim Scott, co-founder of Radical Cander and Just Work.

And I'm Jason Roseoff, CEO and co-founder of Radical Cander. And I'm Amy Sandler, your host for the Radical Candor podcast. On our last episode, we talked about

step six on the get shit done wheel, which is how to successfully implement your kick-ass idea.

Once your idea has been implemented, you probably think you're done with this whole get-shit-done

wheel thing. But alas, there is one more

step, and that is learn. Kim, you write in radical candor that it's human nature for us to become

attached, often unreasonably attached to projects we've invested a lot of time and energy into. It can

take almost superhuman discipline to step back, to acknowledge when our results could be a lot of time and energy into. It can take almost superhuman discipline to step back,

to acknowledge when our results could be a lot better, or simply no good and learn from the

experience. You also share a story about a colleague of yours who once built a team that was

getting absolutely terrible results, but he just couldn't admit it. Those of us who were

trying to

point it out to him were mystified. When we finally got through to him, he exclaimed,

it's unbearably painful to admit it when you have an ugly baby. Kim, were those his exact words?

Yes, those were his exact words. And then everyone had great

compassion for him. I don't know if I did the voiceover right, because I don't know how someone

makes that declaration. It's terribly painful to admit it when you have an ugly baby.

On today's episode, we're going to talk about why it's so important to learn from mistakes and successes alike to keep improving, and why denial is actually the more common reaction to imperfect execution than learning.

So, Kim, you identify two barriers to learning. The pressure to be

consistent is one of them and also burnout. Let's start with how the pressure to be consistent

can derail learning. So this is a hard one for me to talk about because some of the feedback

that I have gotten, which I think is legitimate,

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