Welcome to Among the Lilies, Episode 2. I'm Cameron Brad. This is the show for ladies who are tired of

pretending and are ready to be real. In today's episode, I interview Sarah Swofford about how to accept

and live from our God-given dignity

instead of trying to keep up with the Joneses and their stupid perfect Instagram account.

Sarah, thank you so much for coming on the show today.

Oh, well, thank you for being cool and having a show.

I really appreciate you just being awesome and stepping out there for all the women and moms out there.

I just love it.

You're awesome.

Well, I think you're equally awesome, so it's going to be really, really good.

And my eight-year-old son thinks you're amazing, so that's pretty huge.

Well, I, you know, I score pretty high with the under 10 crowd, I feel like, yeah, since I have an all under 10 crowd.

Yeah, exactly.

No, I've had the pleasure to meet some of your kids.

I can't wait to meet all of

them. So they are fantastic, not shocking with the parents that they have. So you're doing a good job raising that crazy bunch. I love it. They are, they are crazy indeed. Kiyara, so our kids had their first day of school today. And our four-year-old, it's the first time she's ever gone to school, any school, any of that. So she's in preschool and we said, how was your day? She was so excited. And we're like, how was school? And she's like, it was pretty awesome. And we're like, oh, yeah, tell us about it. What did you do? We ate cake and ice cream and we watched movies and we swimming in a pool and some of the kids went on horses but I didn't.

I want to go to school with her.

Right?

I'm like, I don't think any of that's true.

And she's like, Anne, there was this girl who wasn't my friend, but then we played a game

and now she's my best friend.

I love it. Yeah. That sounds more like summer camp that didn't end. Right. That's awesome. Pretty much. And then Matt said, you are awesome. Kiar, you're the best. And she said, no, God's the best. And we laughed and then she said, but I'm the second best. Oh, I love it. Well, it's good. Hey, confidence is a good

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