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Crap, Trash and Greed.

It's Black Friday and you're listening to The New Statesman podcast with me, Anusha Kellyan.

And joining me today, I have our business editor, Will Dunn.

Hello.

Will, like usual, I'm going to get you to talk rubbish later in the episode about your expedition to Oxford's giant trash pile, which we did reference on the episode yesterday.

But first, let's talk about the American holiday that swept the world, not Christmas, but Black Friday.

What's the oldest thing you own?

And I do promise, our listeners, this is relevant to the discussion. So the oldest thing you own? And I do promise, Alice, this is relevant to the discussion.

So the oldest thing, so I've got a frying pan that originally belonged to my grandmother, which I think she bought in 1971.

In fact, I know it, she bought it in 1971 because it's some sort of commemorative frying pan.

But I don't know, that's the lump of metal.

So it's, you know, you would expect that to last while.

What's a commemorative frying pan?

Does it have the queen's face in it?

It fries an egg into the shape of the monarch.

I can't actually remember what it commemorates.

No, it must have been, what, the wedding of Charles and Diana?

Oh, yes.

It's got a little inscription thing on the back.

Right.

Yeah.

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