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“Crank That Sh*t Up!” Greg Koch on Teaching, Mistakes, Modeling, and Modern Blues

Wong Notes

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Music, Music Commentary, Music Interviews

4.9587 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

You might not know Greg Koch, but we’ll bet your favorite guitarist does. In 2012, Fender called the Wisconsin blues-guitar phenom one of the top 10 best unsung guitarists, and in 2020, Guitar World listed Koch among the 15 best guitar teachers. He’s been inducted into the Wisconsin Area Music Industry Hall of Fame. Koch is a bonafide midwest guitar god.

He joins Cory Wong on this round of Wong Notes for this meeting of the Middle-America minds, where the duo open with analysis of music culture in Wisconsin and Minnesota—Koch taught at Saint Paul’s now-shuttered McNally Smith College of Music, which Wong attended. Koch and Wong zero in on the blues roots of most modern music and talk through soloing theories: It can be as easy or as hard as you want it to be, but Koch shares that he likes to “paint himself into a corner,” then get out of it.

Koch and Wong swap notes on the pressures of studio performance versus the live realm, and how to move on from mistakes made onstage in front of audiences. Plus, Koch has created scores of guitar education materials, including for Hal Leonard. Tune in to find out what makes a good guitar course, how to write a guitar book, Koch’s audio tips for crystalline live-stream sessions, and why he still prefers tube amps: “I like to crank that sh*t up!”

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Produced by Jason Shadrick and Cory Wong

Additional Editing by Shawn Persinger

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Transcript

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0:00.0

What's happening? Welcome to Wong Notes podcast. I'm your host, Corey Wong. Today on the show, we've got Greg Cock. Now, Greg is an incredible guitar player, but also an incredible teacher. Now, a lot of people think, oh, this person's great at guitar. They must be great at teaching and communicating. Tell you what, those are very different skills.

0:22.4

And Greg is one of those cats that has them both dialed in and so much so that he's

0:27.3

been hired to write several books and method books, even how to approach the guitar itself,

0:35.3

kind of understanding of the fretboard, understanding of the instrument,

0:39.0

and also understanding certain genres. Now, you have to have a certain depth of understanding

0:43.9

in your own playing to be able to communicate it to other people, and you have to understand

0:49.5

how people are going to learn in order to get the most results. Greg is wonderful at that. I've learned

0:56.7

a lot from his materials. I hope some of you have as well. Maybe you've even read some of his

1:01.6

stuff and not even known it. Anyways, incredible guitar player, great phrasing, great tone,

1:07.8

really great at playing trio, by the way. And I get into some of that in this episode.

1:13.6

Greg's a wonderful dude, a fellow Midwest cat like myself. Actually, I was one of the schools that I went to for music was McNally Smith College of Music. I went to the University of Minnesota, and I went to McNally Smith, which was in St. Paul, Minnesota. It's no longer around.

1:28.7

But right after I graduated, Greg started teaching there, and I was so bummed that I didn't get to take lessons from them there.

1:35.6

I had amazing teachers when I was there, but Greg started teaching there and was spending some time in the Twin Cities and fellow Midwest Cat, like I'm saying. So it is,

1:46.2

we're kindred spirits in many of our Midwestern ways, how we look at things, approach things.

1:53.7

And just a great dude, honestly, really wonderful guy. I hope you enjoy this interview. I

1:58.6

enjoy doing it. And tell you what, if you're also into education,

2:03.4

I got to say, I worked really hard on a guitar course. Over five and a half hours of guitar videos,

2:11.3

lessons, stuff is tabbed out. It's the Corey Wong guitar course. I can promise you,

2:16.8

you will be a better player if you go through all the stuff in this course. Okay? I mean that. It's not Corey Wong guitar course. I can promise you you will be a better player if you go through

2:18.8

all the stuff in this course. Okay. I mean that. It's not just rhythm guitar. It's not just lead guitar.

2:23.9

It's all of it. Okay. Practice tips. Very practical ways of outlining how I practice in a one-hour

2:32.3

practice session and just the practice mindset and how to get better things to pay attention to. So got to tell you, it's a wonderful course. I put a lot of time and effort into it. Also, if you're in Europe right now, I'm going on tour. My tour starts this week. It's going to be amazing. My whole 10-piece band is going to be with me.

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