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Alright, let's do this. 90 minutes of Craig Killborn.

I was once asked if I'd ever seen the movie Black Stallion and I thought, see it, I own it.

I said the most difficult guess can be the untamable thoroughbred. I said, have you ever met Craig Killborn? And I said, I'm not ready for that challenge.

That was years ago when I was told that story. And now I feel like today with Craig sitting in front of me, I am ready to tame that horse.

That was beautiful. That was a beautiful introduction. You want to, I'm going to tell you why I'm so excited to be here.

In the past, there's a natural, I was known as the natural host when I did late night. Once they said that, I left. That's all I needed to hear from kidding.

But I did, I was very nice of, it's very nice of Mr Simmons. You guys are I think co-owners of the ringer. You're the COO.

He's got a little bit higher title than I do. Yeah. Congratulations on the new Spotify deal that none of us understand, but we're excited about it.

But I was going to say, I did his, his podcast years ago and I was, I was awful because I was hyper. And I listen, I go, oh, easy fix if I did it tomorrow.

So today is tomorrow, I'll just listen to you respond. I won't segment produce. Do you want a segment produce? Are you, are you a creative type?

Like on air guys are either inspired by those around them and they follow a lead and then there's others that are control freaks. I was a control freak.

I was told, I was told I was a control person. There's no freak over here.

Yeah, we don't like to use those words anymore. I used to do a joke that I, the only reason I want to be in control is because when wrong decisions are being made, I want to be the one making them.

But no, I thought I, if I had four good stories and we don't get to them, what a waste.

But podcasts are loose and there will be interesting things said, but still there might be some stories left out, but that's fine.

You have four, so you're telling me you have four stories you would like to do today. No, no, no, that's not true. In late night, we would have at least four good areas to talk to and some to talk about topics.

And sometimes it was simply like with Mimi Rogers, she loves mustard and puts it on everything. That's not a story. So we would just talk about that.

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