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everything secure. As soon as it came out, I had an interview and someone said they interviewed

106 people. And I'm like, okay, when you go back and you watch and you got him shooting a shot

against Cleveland, I'm in the back court with you. I'm in the back court with you when we get

an ass-whippance from Detroit.

You can try to edit me out. It's similar to the three-point contest to me is that, you know, you go back and you look at it. You've changed the contests all around so you don't try to have to mention me and that kind of stuff, but it's funny because we understand history, Dave, and we've been blessed to, for me, I've been blessed to be a part

of it.

So it's almost an honor and a privilege that I wasn't part of it.

Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Zyron.

This week we talked to NBA Freedom Fighter and former Chicago Bulls player who is exiled out of the league for his political beliefs, Craig Hodges,

and his assessment of this national uprising against police violence.

And we also talk about the ESPN documentary of The Last Dance,

the Michael Jordan Hageography, which did not bother to speak to Craig Hodges

for reasons that feel very intentional.

Also, I've got some choice words about NASCAR and the Confederate flag,

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