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Spiegel & Holmes Show

Craig Counsell: 'Things will change' for the struggling Cubs

Spiegel & Holmes Show

Audacy

Sports

4.2652 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes were joined by Cubs manager Craig Counsell to discuss his club’s continued struggles and the adjustments he has made in an attempt to get the team out of its rut.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Here, number 11, Craig Counsel.

0:04.2

Craig Counsel.

0:05.2

Never listen to the score?

0:06.5

The score.

0:08.4

You're on the score, though.

0:11.9

I don't listen to the score.

0:13.2

I'm sorry.

0:14.5

I did.

0:15.1

I did.

0:15.7

When I was a kid, I did.

0:17.0

They did that segment, Who You Crapping.

0:19.3

MLB veteran for 16 seasons.

0:21.5

Swale a bouncer. Shortstop.

0:23.5

Counsel.

0:24.4

Trolls.

0:25.1

Got him.

0:26.5

Counsel picked it up clean and threw a strike to first.

0:31.0

Manager for your Chicago Cubs.

0:34.1

High fly ball.

0:35.6

Right field.

0:36.7

That's back.

0:55.1

We're tied. 2-2. And it's the PCA show here at Wreckley. Like I told you, like, we get to play this game. You know, we're all lucky enough to be able to show up every day. And Count's made an interesting point to me the other day where he said it's kind of feels like it's a bunch of have to and we have to get the job done and we have to pick it up turn around when these games

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