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Spiegel & Holmes Show

Craig Counsell believes in this team's offensive ability (Hour 1)

Spiegel & Holmes Show

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Sports

4.2652 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes opened their show by breaking down the Cubs' 5-1 loss to the Blue Jays on Tuesday. After that, Cubs manager Craig Counsell joined the show to discuss his club's mindset amid a tough stretch in which a once-powerful offense has gone cold.

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0:00.0

Spiegel and Holmes.

0:02.0

Okay, here we go, sports fans. Afternoons on the score. Jason Leisure kind of asked us in the middle of our hit about how we were feeling about Caleb because I think at the time we hadn't realized that Caleb had a bad practice. How freaked out are you guys about Caleb right now? I'm not at all, really. Freaked out. Not at all, okay. Why should we be? You saw us on a night? I don't know.

0:00.5

You can't drop a bomb like that? right now. I'm not at all, really. Freaked out. Not at all, okay. Why should we be?

0:21.4

You saw us on the rate?

0:22.8

You can't, I don't know.

0:23.4

You can't drop a bomb like that in the middle of the bears.

0:26.3

How freaked out are you? Leisure. I'm not. I'm not. Is he sure? Temperature on it. He was kind of expecting us to be freaked out because we saw the Bears practice.

0:19.6

And we were not.

0:20.3

And then he said that he was not.

0:21.9

But then as like another

0:37.8

bad practice kind of sat with us for the whole day and into this morning, it kind of sits a little

0:42.7

different for you. It does. I still would say that all of the things have to still be taken into

0:48.6

account. This guy was dropped into a horrible situation last year.

0:55.0

The type that he's not had to confront pretty much his entire football career.

0:59.2

What's the reason, duck?

1:00.3

But what does he do, seemingly, when coaches come to him or even media comes to him and says,

1:06.7

you got this?

1:07.6

He's a guy who says, yeah, I got it.

1:09.1

What's the reason, duck?

1:10.2

I feel like he is

1:12.5

someone who is very confident and maybe overconfident. I'm trying not to mean that as a pejorative.

1:19.5

I feel like Caleb is really smart, but there have just been like little nuggets of stuff when I

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