So this is a very special day, and I'm sitting here with Antonio Sacre, dear friend of mine.

And just so you all know, the genesis of this podcast, well, we talked about doing something together,

because he's here visiting me in Colorado.

But this morning, just to put an image to it, we were walking multiple laps around a graveyard in the Colorado summer heat.

He was wearing a really, really dorky hat with a flap over his neck, and I was wearing an even dorkier

get up with a ball cap, a bandiana, and a fully packed backpack and trekking poles as we did multiple laps around this graveyard. People were asking me,

where are you going? What is your objective? Well, actually, had two objectives. One, I think

better when I move. So I said, Don Tony, I said, let's go on a walk this morning and talk about

what we might explore today on the podcast. And two, next Tony, I said, let's go on a walk this morning and talk about what we might

explore today on the podcast. And two, next week, I'm meeting my 19-year-old twin daughters

on the Colorado Trail for, well, they're doing 480 miles. And I'm meeting them for 55 miles.

So they've been saying to me over and over, dad, you have to be in shape. Will you be in shape? Will you be ready?

Because we're going to be a month ahead of you.

So today I was getting in shape, walking with you with our dorky hats.

And as you pointed out, we both had shirts with whales on them.

You have a Mopee tig shirt.

I have this faded 70s, like, save the whales shirt.

So we were looking good.

It was fantastic.

It was good.

So sometimes I've had people ask me, if you couldn't be a psychiatrist, what would

you be?

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