Cracks in the Red Wall, Lee Anderson on being a Tory, and indyref2
Chopper's Politics
The Telegraph
4.2 • 864 Ratings
🗓️ 1 July 2022
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
This week saw SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon made her intentions very clear to hold an indyref2, just 8 years since the last "once in a lifetime" referendum in 2014. But is her move legal? Former Conservative Scottish Secretary David Mundell joins Christopher Hope to unpack what exactly is going on.
Also joining Chris in the Red Lion pub this week is MP for Ashfield Lee Anderson, who's courted controversy recently for comments over foodbanks. He popped by and also gave his twopence on Steve Bray, the anti-Brexit campaigner whose speakers were confiscated by the police earlier this week.
And finally, Chris speaks to Phillip Lee on what it takes to cross the floor and switch parties, in the wake of reports that as many as six Red Wall Tories could be looking to defect.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on Chopper's politics. |
| 0:04.0 | I must say, I sort of look on at the parliamentary party now colleagues who I know do never have supported the prime Minister personally and have never supported Brexit |
| 0:14.5 | they think it's a complete disaster and I do wonder how they sleep at night. |
| 0:18.0 | Hello and welcome to chopper's politicsiggly wander through Westminster's halls of power and beyond. |
| 0:26.0 | I'm Christopher Hope, the Associate Editor for Politics at the Daily Telegraph. |
| 0:30.6 | Now I'm recording this in the basement of the Red Lion pub, but on the streets above me in |
| 0:35.2 | Whitehall it's been a noisier week. Not least because anti Brexit campaign of Steve Bray had his speakers |
| 0:41.8 | confiscated by police on Tuesday, the first day of the |
| 0:45.4 | police and crime bill coming into action. So I thought who better to ask to join me |
| 0:50.9 | in the Red Lion pub than Tory MP for Ashfield, Lee Anderson, who as some people |
| 0:56.8 | on social media will now has regularly clashed with Steve Ray outside the gates of Parliament. And Westminster being Westminster, |
| 1:04.0 | this week has been dominated to a small degree |
| 1:07.0 | by reports that some Tory MPs might be looking |
| 1:10.0 | at crossing the floor to join Labour |
| 1:12.0 | amid fears of a Tory wipeout at the next general election. |
| 1:16.4 | So I thought let's call up Philip Lee, a former Tory MP who joined the Liberal Democrats |
| 1:22.4 | at the height of the Brexit Wars in 2019 to find out, well, how |
| 1:27.4 | hard is it to cost the floor? |
| 1:29.7 | But before that, this week saw Nicholas Sturgeon, the SMP leader and Scottish First Minister, making |
| 1:36.1 | clear her intentions to hold an Indie Rev 2, a second Scottish referendum on independence next year. |
| 1:43.5 | Her announcement blindsided Westminster to some extent because she has gone to the Supreme |
| 1:47.9 | Court to see whether such a poll will be legal, given that the government in Westminster is highly unlikely to |
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