Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective. The podcast about illustration, how to do it,

how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee. And I'm Samantha Caudrell, and let's jump into it. All right. Lee, creativity,

take us away. What were you going to talk? Where were you

going to tell us about that? Well, this was just a little chat. Sam and Jake and I were having

via text. I've been looped in. I think I watched one video on YouTube that was about

happiness. And I watched one video like the science behind has like a TED talk or something and then another one on creativity so all I'm

getting now is tips on being creative and being happy then they're actually pretty

interesting podcasts I've never really heard people talk about kind of changing these different

things in your life to get this predicted outcome. But one of the things I

thought was interesting with creativity, I was listening to this in my car the other day, pondering it.

And I'm curious to see what you guys think about it. But the idea was, the main idea was,

a lot of people coming to creative endeavors, writing books or whatever you're doing, making

illustrations, try to come up with something from scratch. Like, the main idea is you're trying to

come up with this big thing that's totally new that nobody has seen before. And the way this

podcast reframed what creativity is, and they used a bunch of examples of it in the podcast.

But the best way to get something that's creative is to get something that has some kind of meaning, that's meaningful to you, and then reframe it.

And so instead of sitting there beating your head against the wall, trying to come up with this like, you know, space story or something,

they were saying like, look at what's going on in your life

or look at ways that you've felt in the past.

And then sort of reframe that.

And that's how you get to the true heart of something that's that's actually

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