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The Daily

Cracking Down on Leaks

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2018

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

For a year and a half, President Trump has threatened to crack down on leaks and leakers. The seizure of emails and phone records from a reporter at The New York Times tells a great deal about what that might look like. Guest: Matt Apuzzo, a reporter for The Times in Washington who had his records subpoenaed during the Obama administration. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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From the New York Times on Michael Barbaro, this is The Daily.

0:35.6

Today, for a year and a half, President Trump has threatened to crack down on leaks and

0:46.8

leakers.

0:48.4

What the seizure of emails and phone records from a reporter at the Times tells us about

0:54.8

what that will look like.

0:59.4

It's Monday, June 18th.

1:04.7

So in May of 2013, I was working at the Associated Press in the Washington Bureau with my now colleague

1:15.2

at the Times, Adam Goldman.

1:17.0

And we sat across from each other, separated by this cubicle and just spent all day,

1:21.8

every day talking to each other through the cubicle.

1:25.4

And we're sitting there and Goldman says, hey, did you get this thing?

1:30.2

And I said, I don't know what you're talking about.

1:32.6

He goes, I'm forwarding this to you.

1:34.0

Is this spam?

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It was a weird attachment, a PDF attachment.

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