I'm Jay Nordlinger at CPAC and I am representing National Review and Ricochet And I have with me right now the famous,

venerable, very distinguished Herb Linden, educator, writer, intellectual, man about town, famous New Yorker, etc.

Thank you for those adjectival phrases, Gave me.

I really appreciate it, but none of it is true of course.

We could talk about almost anything.

I want to talk a bit about universities.

Okay?

There are conservatives, people on our side who say we need to give up on the universities, at least the so-called mainstream ones

build our own maybe go online

others say no do your best to integrate the universities.

Don't have separate universities, conservative you,

but integrate the others.

Other people say, no, that's a fool error.

They'll never happen.

They'll never let you in.

We might have a couple of tokens.

This is a very big topic about which books have been written.

But do you want to give us a couple of minutes on that subject?

Well, I've written about it myself and obviously have a position and my position is that we should establish beachheads at American universities.

These may be small programs, but programs that could make a difference.

We already see some examples of it.

Harvey E.E.B. has done an enormously important job at Harvard.

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