Cox and Wyden on Section 230 and Generative AI
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 2 May 2023
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Generative AI products have been tearing up the headlines recently. Among the many issues these products raise is whether or not their outputs are protected by Section 230, the foundational statute that shields websites from liability for third-party content.
On this episode of Arbiters of Truth, Lawfare’s occasional series on the information ecosystem, Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic and Matt Perault, Director of the Center on Technology and Policy at UNC-Chapel Hill, talked through this question with Senator Ron Wyden and Chris Cox, formerly a U.S. congressman and SEC chairman. Cox and Wyden drafted Section 230 together in 1996—and they’re skeptical that its protections apply to generative AI.
Disclosure: Matt consults on tech policy issues, including with platforms that work on generative artificial intelligence products and have interests in the issues discussed.
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| 0:29.0 | Let me try to boil it down on my end. |
| 0:37.0 | What I've always felt is that Section 230 is about protecting users. |
| 0:43.0 | It's about expanding speech. |
| 0:46.0 | It's about democratizing the internet. |
| 0:49.0 | So that is fundamentally different than chat GPT. |
| 0:54.0 | Chat GPT does not do those things. |
| 0:58.0 | I'm QuintedRusic, Senior Editor at LawFair, and this is the LawFair podcast. |
| 1:04.0 | May 2nd, 2023. |
| 1:07.0 | Today we're bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, |
| 1:10.0 | our series on the information ecosystem. |
| 1:13.0 | Generative AI products have been tearing up the headlines recently. |
| 1:17.0 | Among the many issues these products raise is whether or not their outputs are protected by Section 230. |
| 1:23.0 | The foundational statute that shields websites from liability. |
| 1:27.0 | For third party content. |
| 1:30.0 | Who better to talk through this question with than the people who wrote Section 230 in the first place? |
| 1:35.0 | Together with Matt Perralt, Director of the Center on Technology Policy at UNC Chapel Hill. |
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