This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. And now, Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ, Buck, with you. Buck, happy game day, buddy. I know you got the high school season kicking off tonight. How you doing, man? Man, I'm good. DJ. I am great. Uh, kind of excited. It's funny. Like, you spend all this time where football is the one game where you practice far more than you ever play. And now we're here. And so you wake up and you're like, oh, we have a game today. How are we going to, what's it going to look like how we're going to approach it uh it's all funny games though but i think the funny thing

because uh we're taping this now, like 9 p.m. local time. We had a morning walkthrough just to see the nervous, the nervous kids, the nervous energy, all this stuff bouncing around. To me, it's kind of like reliving Friday night lights because you remember when you used to have the butterflies and all that other stuff. So it's the fun part, like watching them kind of play and living vicariously through them. All right. A couple of questions I want to get to you on this. Number one, no hat, hat, visor. What are we doing? What are we doing on the sideline?

I'm typically a hat guy. Like I normally have kind of like a Nike running hat that I've always kind of utilized. But I've gone some games without a hat or whatever. I've never been able to do the visor thing because for me, if I have the visor on, then what's going to happen? I'm going to have the nasty ring. I have the sunline and it doesn't really work.

So I'm a to have the nasty ring.

I'm going to have the sunline and it doesn't really work. So I'm a little envious of Brian Schoenheimer and some guys that can wear the visor, but I never could be a visor guy. So it either be hat or no hat and then I have to figure out if I'm wear shades or not because I don't have prescription sunglasses yet. So that can make it tricky when you're trying to look at the call sheet and you don't really see anything, then you're squitting. So that was my next question. Call sheet wise. Are we Sean Payton call sheet or are we Mike Leach call sheet in terms of the size of that thing? In fact, I have it right here, DJ. Oh, yeah, I see. That's more like it. We are. That's more Mike Leach. I think you have to remember, remember back at Pack 12 Media Days one time, we finally got Mike Leach on. And it was after we had a conversation with Lincoln Riley. And Lincoln Riley taught him how, talked about how Mike Leach taught him. And so Mike Leach actually gave us the demo. And so for me, DJ, I've followed it to a T. I break the call sheet up in quarters in terms of like situation and circumstance, offense and defense, keep it in my pocket, flip it, rearrange it, highlight it, have a little pin that you can make notes. I used to be a laminated guy and hang on a lanyar, but I felt like that's not a good look for me. A little aggressive. Yeah. So I just, I keep it in my pocket and everything. And it's very much like some of the things you know in TV, in TV I always have to have like a pin in my hand or a thing to kind of keep me from gesturing wildly. It's the same

thing with this. When I don't have like the little thing in my hand, like I feel like I'm just out of sorts. So I just got to need to have it. Regardless whether I look at it, I just, there's comfort and just having it. It's like it's like the blankie. You know, it's just like the little comfort blanket. Yeah. Are we scripting out? Are we scripting out the first 15? What are we doing?

No, like, I am, and this is fun. You know, it's just like the little comfort blanket. Yeah. Are we scripting out? Are we scripting out the first 15?

What are we doing?

No, like I am, and this is funny because this would tell you like a conversation that I had with Liam Cohen.

And it was right before his first preseason game.

And we were talking about, you know, he's not one that likes the quarterback to operate off wristbands.

And it's not necessarily it being a crutch for the quarterback. But as he explained it to me, it was too hard for him to be like, hey, this is what I want to call, but I got to look down on my sheet and go orange five. That's what it is. He said, it's kind of an art to it. I kind of know what I want to get to and how I want to call it. And I don't necessarily have it down. It's just like a feel and flow. And for me, DJ, I kind of operate like that. I kind of know what I want to get to, but it's kind of like an art and a feel to it. The thing that I have learned to have down is got to have it play. Like a two-point play, got to have it. Chaos, you want that written down. So you're like, hey, this is what we're doing, two-point play. And the other thing is the reminder, players not plays. Let's remember who our best players are. And let's make sure when and out, the ball goes to dim. If we lose with the ball in the hands of your best player, so be it. But don't get too

cute, think about the play and not think about the play. All right. We're going to get some

NFL stuff here, but I'm going to stay on this because I have another question for you.

I've wondered this from a coaching standpoint on high school.

Is someone obviously playing the NFL and been at the highest level on all the scouting experience to go along with it, Buck?

I'm always fascinated by, in the NFL, you're going to run certain formation, certain look to see how they're playing you.

And then based off of how they're playing you might cue up what you want to call later on in a game.

In high school, is the coaching good enough and discipline enough that when you give certain looks,

you are going to get a same response?

Or is there some of it that makes it harder to coach because the unpredictability of A, they should not be in this look against what we're running right now, but somehow they've

navigated into this.

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