Oh my God, hi. You surprised me. I'm Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that treats popular culture as the most important kind of culture. To build it up and tear it back down, Troubled Waters pits a pair of entertainers against one another in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win this battle, each of them will be called upon to use their smarts, their argument skills, maybe the great

comebacks that they've been saving in a little field notes notebook to earn the coveted Troubled

Waters title Punant Emeritus, which will automatically give their opinion on when Taylor Swift

is going to drop her highly anticipated coup against the federal government, more weight than

civilians.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. yeah I was sat and watched that brand new episode of New Heights just the other day

when Taylor Swift

the countdown went down to zero and she got on she announced a new album and I was like oh my god

I can't and then it was like I was an hour in before I remembered I don't care I mean she's fine

she's fine I'm sure it'll be a good album Max Martin and Shelbach are back in the mix

it's going to be great but like God, God, I get, it's dropping on

Christian Dwayneus's birthday. Well, okay, now I'm back in. Let's meet our guests. Our first contestant

is part of the comedy group, shipwrecked comedy. It's our old pal, Mary Kate Wyatt.

Hi. How are you? You know, I'm okay. I have COVID, but otherwise I'm okay. No. Just found out for sure this morning. Oh, no. I was in a show this past weekend, and I actually was an understudy, and the whole cast got COVID, so I performed, and then turns out I also got it as well so wow the theater had it yeah oh no yeah oh well

that's terrible oh it's okay you seem sunny as all I haven't felt too bad it's only my second time

getting it this whole five years so you know and and hopefully I've had the worst of it we'll see

okay great yeah I will tell you my 93 year old mother got it from a family So, you know, and hopefully I've had the worst of it. We'll see.

Okay, great.

Yeah.

I will tell you, my 93-year-old mother got it from a family wedding just a couple months ago and, like, was fine. It was fine. Okay, great. Glad to hear it. Yeah. So that's good. So that's good. Good, good, good. If my 93-year-old mother can survive it, surely you can too.

Get well soon, Mary Kate. Thank you. Good, good, good. If my 93-year-old mother can survive, surely you can too.

Hopefully I can too.

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