Summary
Covid: Laurie Taylor explores the financial impact of the coronavirus & asks if it represents an opportunity, as well as a crisis. He's joined by Lisa Suckert, Senior Researcher at the Max Planck Institute for the Study of Societies in Cologne, whose recent study examines the way in which the pandemic has disrupted our sense of time and the temporal logic of the capitalist economy. Also, Adam Tooze, Shelby Cullom Davis chair of History at Columbia University, considers the shockwaves unleashed by the shutdown of the global economy. Will they yield any positive changes to our way of life?
Producer: Jayne Egerton
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| 1:20.0 | During the height of the COVID crisis it sometimes felt that the only action in town was the tick of a clock, |
| 1:27.1 | the dull awareness of time passing. The three-level office block across the street from my study was devoid of workers, the main road without traffic, the pavement free from pedestrians, and any plans I might have had for the future had ground to a halt. |
| 1:44.0 | Tic-Toc, Tic-Toc was all that was left to fill the empty spaces. |
| 1:51.2 | But until I read a new paper, I hadn't properly recognised the full implications of this new temporal landscape. |
| 1:59.0 | I hadn't recognized how much it threatened, how much it undermined the logic of capitalism. |
| 2:05.0 | That paper is entitled, |
| 2:07.0 | The coronavirus and the temporal order of capitalism. |
| 2:11.0 | And its author now joins me online is Lisa Zuckett, who is senior researcher at the Max Planck Institute for the study of societies in Cologne, Germany. |
| 2:20.0 | Lisa, good to speak to you. You argue that coping with COVID-19 requires a manner of |
| 2:25.8 | dealing with time that is in many respects supposed to the familiar way we deal with time. |
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