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COVID, Quickly, Episode 8: The Pandemic's True Death Toll and the Big Lab-Leak Debate

Science Quickly

Scientific American

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4.31.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2021

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Today we bring you a new episode in our podcast series: COVID, Quickly. Every two weeks,  Scientific American ’s senior health editors  Tanya Lewis  and  Josh Fischman  catch you up on the essential developments in the pandemic: from vaccines to new variants and everything in between.

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0:00.0

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0:37.7

Hi and welcome to COVID Quickly, a scientific American podcast series.

0:41.9

This is your Fast Track Update on the COVID pandemic. We bring you up to speed on the science

0:47.1

behind the most urgent questions about the virus and the disease. We demystify the research and

0:52.3

help you understand what it really means. I'm Tony Lewis and I'm Josh Fishman. We're a scientific

0:57.7

American senior health editors. Today we're going to explain how COVID deaths have been seriously

1:02.9

undercounted in many parts of the US. And we'll discuss the raging debate over the origins of

1:08.5

the pandemic causing virus, a wild animal or a sloppy human lab. We know that COVID has caused

1:18.2

an unthinkable number of deaths, more than half a million in the US alone. But you've been looking

1:23.9

at new research, Tonya, and could the true number of deaths during the pandemic be even larger?

1:28.9

Yes, scientists have looked at the number of excess deaths or deaths beyond the amount you'd

1:33.8

expect in a typical year, and showed that there were far more deaths than usual in 2020

1:38.6

at the national and state levels. In a new preprint study, Andrew Stokes, a professor of

1:43.3

population health at Boston University and his colleagues, calculated excess deaths at the county

1:48.3

level. They found big disparities in how these deaths were attributed to COVID in different parts of

1:53.1

the country. Rural counties, especially ones in the south and west, had the highest rates of excess

1:58.4

deaths not attributed to COVID. Some of these were likely COVID deaths that were misattributed to

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