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Thank you, Mr. President.

US Intelligence is saying this week that the coronavirus likely came from a level 4 lab

in Wuhan.

There's also another report that the NIH under the Obama Administration in 2015 gave that

lab $3.7 million in a grant.

Why would the US give a grant like that to China?

The Obama Administration gave them a grant of $3.7 million.

I've been hearing about that and we've instructed that if any grants are going to that area,

we will end that grant very quickly.

We weren't far into the pandemic before the arguments became political, extremely political.

The earliest cases of COVID-19 were associated with the Huanan wet market in Wuhan under

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