One, two, three.

Skinnifation.

Yeah.

Monica.

You know, I haven't interviewed someone in a long time because I just haven't been interested

in anything like that.

And then now here's you.

And this is the perfect person we've been on this tour to force.

It has been three and a half years.

We met really, really in the pandemic.

See, we can thank the pandemic for this friendship.

Yeah.

I'm so grateful in that way.

But where first one was about trying to bring down that fear, that the media and public

health was whipping up around not using database approaches and science-based approaches

and kind of who's most at risk, who can feel better about it, and now we're here again.

And here we are.

And the thing is, so part of the thing is that, look, and you don't even want to promote

this.

I have to go down to your car and pop your trunk to get the actual book out.

You know, you're not self-promoting enough.

So this is endemic, a post-pandemic playbook, which you put out.

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