My name is Stan. I'm at. Nice to meet you. So you took up photography where? I've always loved

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Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

I loved going to college.

It's good you can retrain and do something.

Yeah, yeah.

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Joining me today to talk COVID is Tom Chivers, science writer at the I paper.

Welcome to the bunker, Tom.

No, thank you, thank you for having me.

I was thinking of the people I know who haven't had COVID and I can count them on one hand now.

Nearly everyone has some immunity to the virus now through infection or vaccination or both.

And yet we're still catching it again and again why is that

fundamentally your body builds up immunity through various things got antibodies

which remember a small bit of the virus or whatever that is attacking you and they remember it really well and they stop you from getting infected the virus doesn't have to change very much to be able to avoid antibody immunity to some extent

So as new variants of it come along, the antibody immunity wanes

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