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🗓️ 21 November 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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The Covid Inquiry led by Baroness Hallett has concluded that the UK did too little too late in response to Covid-19, that the lockdown could have been avoided if steps such as social distancing and isolating had been introduced earlier. Joining Anita Rani to give their response to the findings and tell their stories of that time, are musical theatre actor Ruthie Henshall, whose mother died in a care home during Covid and Naomi Fulop, from Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice UK, who also lost her mother during this time.
Another chance to hear a shortened version of an interview Anita recorded last month with Melinda French Gates, the most well known and powerful woman in philanthropy. In 2000, Melinda co-founded the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which has - to date - donated over one hundred billion dollars to charitable projects. She and Bill Gates married in 1994 and divorced in 2021, after 27 years of marriage. Melinda has since left their joint enterprise and set up her own, Pivotal Ventures, which has one purpose: to put power into the hands of women.
In a new report 'Care, courage, change,' the World Health Organisation has conducted analysis of the various health and support policies for survivors of violence in the 53 countries of the WHO European Region. The report reveals that almost one in three women and girls aged 15-years and older, will experience physical or sexual violence in their lifetime - but countries' health sectors are failing nearly one in three survivors. Anita Rani talks to Melanie Hyde, WHO Europe’s Gender, Equality and Human Rights Technical Officer, author of the report.
Poetry, love and an incurable cancer diagnosis are the themes of a new film looking at the relationship between the acclaimed spoken word poet and activist Andrea Gibson and their wife, writer Megan Falley. Megan joins Anita along with the documentary's producer Jessica Hargrave to talk about the film and her late wife.
Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Rebecca Myatt
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| 0:13.3 | But I've always wondered, what if we'd had more time? How much deeper does the story go? |
| 0:19.2 | I remember having this very sharp thought that what you do right now, this is it. |
| 0:24.3 | This defines your life. |
| 0:26.0 | I'm ready to talk and ready to listen. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm insulted by how little the medical community is ever bothered with this. |
| 0:33.9 | Ready to talk with me, Emma Barnard, is my new podcast. |
| 0:37.0 | Listen on BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Anita Rani, |
| 0:40.7 | and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4. Good morning and welcome to the program. A damning |
| 0:47.1 | report on the handling of COVID has concluded that if we'd gone into lockdown, only a week earlier, |
| 0:53.0 | over 20,000 deaths might have been avoided in the first wave. |
| 0:57.0 | Let me know your reaction to hearing this news today. Get in touch in the usual way. The text number is 84844. |
| 1:04.0 | Also, the World Health Organisation Europe has conducted a first of its kind report called Care, Courage, Change. |
| 1:10.8 | It's an analysis of 53 member states of the WHO European region |
| 1:15.1 | looking into health and support available to survivors of violence. |
| 1:19.1 | It's revealed shocking statistics. |
| 1:20.9 | One in three survivors of violence are failed by the health systems in their country. |
| 1:25.8 | We'll be looking into why. |
| 1:29.2 | And this morning we'll be discussing the life of Andrea Gibson, Colorado poet laureate and activist, spoken word poet, |
| 1:36.1 | who died of cancer in July of this year. Come see me in the Good Light is a very powerful, funny, |
| 1:43.3 | moving and beautiful documentary that captures Andrea's |
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