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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

COVID Controversy to CIA INTEL CIVIL WAR—The Deep State Explodes

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.85.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

1. Alleged Internal U.S. Government Conflict

  • Tulsi Gabbard (as DNI) is:
    • Attempting to reform and expose corruption
    • Facing resistance from a so-called “deep state”
  • The situation is “internal warfare” between intelligence agencies and political factions rather than normal governance.

2. Claims About Investigations & Intelligence Agencies

  • Reports of:
    • FBI questioning CIA officials about past investigations (e.g., 2016 election)
    • Gabbard revoking clearances and restructuring intelligence offices
      • Intelligence institutions were politicized
      • Current actions aim to revisit and expose past misconduct (e.g., Russia investigation)

3. Possible Allegations

  • CIA “raiding” the office of the Director of National Intelligence
  • Whistleblower accusations of:
    • COVID lab‑leak cover-up
    • Anthony Fauci intentionally misleading the public
  • Assertions that:
    • Intelligence findings were manipulated for political reasons

4. COVID-19 Whistleblower

    • A CIA whistleblower said the lab-leak theory was suppressed
    • Fauci and others allegedly influenced intelligence conclusions
      • Scientific and intelligence assessments were coordinated or altered
  • Also alleges:
    • Retaliation against those who supported the lab‑leak theory

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.3

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.3

All right, let's just start with this really crazy breaking news swirling around the Director

0:11.5

of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and apparently growing tensions inside of America's

0:17.5

intelligence community.

0:19.1

Now, I want to be very clear from the start.

0:21.7

As of right now, when I'm taping this, there is, quote, no confirmed public report that the CIA

0:29.4

raided Tulsi Gabbard's office, but that seems to be changing pretty quickly. What we do know

0:35.9

is that multiple investigations and internal disputes

0:40.2

and intelligence community shakeups tied to Gabbard are escalating rapidly. And Washington

0:48.2

is now in full meltdown over all of this. So let me tell you what we think has happened so far. All right. And this is again,

0:56.5

coming from media reports, FBI investigators have been questioning current and former CIA

1:03.9

officials as part of a widening probe into the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation. And the

1:10.7

handling of intelligence tied to the 2016

1:13.2

election. Now, that's coming from the New York Post, all right? And then at the center of all of this

1:19.1

is the DNI, Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, who has aggressively moved to

1:25.8

expose what she calls the politicalization of the intelligence community.

1:31.4

Now remember, Gabbard has spent months, okay, shaking up the intel world.

1:37.4

She has revoked security clearances from dozens of former intelligence officials.

1:42.0

I'm in favor of that.

1:43.6

She slashed offices she described as politicized and launched reviews in everything

1:48.7

from election security operations to taxpayer-funded biological labs overseas.

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