Hello to the listeners of the Victor Davis Hansen show. Victor is the Martin and

Naly Anderson senior fellow and military history and classics at the Hoover

Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Busky distinguished fellow in history at

Hillsdale College. He is a classicist, a political and military historian and

he has a farm and works on a farming rights a lot about farming. So today is our

weekend edition and we have a special guest, Dr. Stephen Quay, who is the co-founder

of Atthost therapeutics, which develops therapeutics and delivering methods for

oncology and infectious diseases. He has founded six startups and in vented 7 FDA approved pharmaceuticals.

His most recent books and the reason that he's here to talk to us is about COVID and the

recent books are the origin of the virus, the hidden truths behind the microbe that

killed millions of people and stay safe. A physician's guide to survive to survival. Oh, sorry,

it must have said survival in under COVID. Is that what it or did I miss the title there, Stephen?

That's perfect. Great. So we welcome Stephen. We're going to take a break right now and we'll come

back and hear latest news on the, especially the origins of the virus. We'll be right back.

We're back and I am going to turn the show over to Victor. So Victor,

have had the show. Thank you. And I think some of our listeners,

remember that kind of spectacular podcast we had with Dr. Stephen Quay, that was on August

1st. So it's been quite a while. And a few we call that he was very clear and gave a very detailed

exit. Jesus, why the likelihood he didn't say it was impossible. There was a natural origins of

COVID, but he gave a fact after fact data point after data point that would lead one to believe

that this coronavirus was engineered and leaked out of the virus. And since that August,

out of the lab, and now since that August 1st interview, Stephen's been on Fox News. He's been on

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