Hey, hey, where you been, but got talk is about to begin, hey, hey, hey, come on in, welcome back to Buck I Talk, Doug Laymarie's here.

Part two, this is part two of covering the buck guys, our long double pod talking to members of the Ohio State beat about how they cover the team, what it's like to cover the team.

At the end of this pod, Nathan Baird and Steven Means will join me to wrap this up to talk about what our tech subscribers want in Ohio State coverage, what they value the most.

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The first pod, make sure you go listen to that.

What has happened at Buck I scoop in the last week spurred this conversation, but obviously we branched out in a lot of different ways.

But Nathan, Steven and I in part one beginning a part one covered what happened at Buck I scoop and then we talked about what we thought of that message board culture, what we thought of it, then we welcomed Ari Wasserman and Bill Landis of the athletic.

We welcomed Ben Kuh of awful announcing and we welcome Bill Rebenowitz and Joey Kaufman of the Columbus Dispatch to talk about covering the team on this podcast, which is part two, which if I could squeeze it all together into a four hour podcast, I would that would just be insane, even for us at Buck I Talk.

Up first, the crew from Letterman Row, Austin Ward, Tim May Spencer, Holbrook, how they go about it, then 11 warriors, Dan Hope explains how he goes about it.

He also formally covered Clemson has some insight on the differences between the beats there.

Then Steve Hellwagon, one of the veteran veteran guys on the beat from Buck Nuts as well as Dave Biddle, another veteran and Pat Murphy from Buck Nuts.

Those three Buck Nuts guys will wrap it up and then again, Steven and Nathan will join me at the end to go over all this stuff again.

Different kind of pod, a little evergreen, I hope you can listen to this, you know, nothing's going to really change.

Again, it's spurred by what happened at Buck I scoop with the departures of two of the three co-founders of that site, Mark Givler, the co-founder who remains, had disagreement with Nevada Buck, who is Ken Stickney and Kirk Barton and Stickney and Barton have left the site.

There's a lot of sort of people talking about that, writing about it, we wrote about it at Clemen.com, that's what spurred this podcast.

All right, I'm assuming you listen to part one, right? Why would you listen to part two without listening to part one?

It's like, you're watching like Robert De Niro be young, Vito Corleone and you're like, who's this guy? It's like what's Brando, man.

He's, you know how Brando is old? This is when he was young.

So nobody on this podcast is getting the age younger. Wouldn't that be great? What if this podcast was like young Doug? It was little doggie.

That's not actually my little doggie voice, it's a little different.

That's probably what this should be. This should just be me being little doggie. Like the origin story, part two, Buck I talk, the origin story, little doggies paradise.

We'll get to that. But for now, we're going to talk about journalism. All right, first up, Austin Ward, Tim May.

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