This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski, Stacey Cole and Todd Michaels.

Yeah, I think that it's just such a different time that we live in, that it's, you have to be cognizant of what's going to around you.

And like Stacy said, you know, using kind of the example of, you know, a wife who's got a husband that's kind of curled up at the other end of the couch all the time and seems to be texting somebody.

And you're like, oh, who the fuck are you texting?

Dude.

No, no one.

Just texting gym.

You know, and then the wife has to sleep in the phone because

she's you know it's got major red flags and women can typically sense when they're their dudes

doing some shit like that sure and you know and with parents it's it's easier i i know that

kids should have privacy to a certain extent but at the same time there's still. I know that kids should have privacy to a certain extent, but at the same time, there's still children.

You know, I'm my 13-year-old, we track exactly who she can and can't text.

You know, I mean, it's got to go through. It's got to go through. So we, you know, she was begging and begging and begging. I want to be on Snapchat. All my friends are on Snapchat. You know, so then we have to research how do we

control. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, so because they're out there. I mean, the predators in terms of online is where it's

really, really scary. It is. That's harder to monitor than the things that are going on in real life.

Now, I mean, with like Sandra's case, everybody let her down.

Every single person that was an adult that was involved in her life.

And again, like I'm with you, Tony, I'm not blaming the parents. But every single person that was an adult in that child's life let her down.

Yeah.

And, you know, and it turned out the worst way possible.

I mean, it literally, it took civil litigation to uncover the foundational pattern of a crime.

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