Hi, I'm Dr. Scott Hahn, and I want to welcome you to the Road to Amos, a podcast here at the St. Paul Center, which we've been doing for years on a wide range of topics.

But I want to begin by welcoming my good friend,

our vice president, and a partner who has been with us

here at the center for well over 20 years.

Rob Corzine, welcome.

It is a delight as always.

We talked about what topic we could discuss

for this episode and perhaps even future episodes.

And I think we both converge.

We landed on the idea of the biblical theology of the sacraments, but especially rooted in a book that I did way back.

Indeed.

Like 20 years ago or so.

Well, and even deeper cut than the book, right?

The book was based on a set of talks that you did that I listened to first in the 90s as a Protestant,

as I was sort of groping my way towards the church, growth by oath.

And then this book. And this is one of these, one of my favorite of your books. of groping my way towards the church, growth by oath, uh,

and then this book. And this is one of these, one of my favorite of your books. And I, um, for many years, I would, I would work a lot of book tables. Now it's most often at the priest conference. And a lot of people will come up and say, oh, I have all of Scott Hans books. Uh, and that is increasingly not the case.

But this is this is one. all of Scott Hahn's books. And that is increasingly not the case.

But this is one that I think a lot of people are missing and they're really missing out.

The swear to God the promise and power of the sacraments.

And so I thought it might be worthwhile since this is a sort of promise and power of the sacraments.

And so I thought it might be worthwhile since this is a sort of a deeper cut of your books to go and bring it back out, you know, like the faithful servant who brings out

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