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COURTSIDE with Neal Katyal

Courtside Episode 10 with Judd Apatow

COURTSIDE with Neal Katyal

Neal Katyal

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.9614 Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

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At once revered and reviled, Citizens United remains one of the most controversial and consequential Supreme Court decisions of the twenty-first century. Striking down all prohibitions on independent campaign expenditures, the landmark 2010 decision found that corporations are afforded the same First Amendment free speech rights as are individuals.

While Justice Stevens, dissenting for the Court’s four liberal members, blasted the conservative majority’s “wooden approach to the First Amendment,” his words were not enough. Citizens United removed one of the last remaining guardrails against corporate interests, and as a result, dark money, corporate spending, and Super PACs have come into election cycles.  Join the legendary Hollywood Director Judd Apatow as we get into the case.

This marks the end of the Courtside Season 1. There might be a special bonus episode coming with someone quite interesting next month, if the stars align. And yes, because you all made Courtside such a smashing success, Season Two will appear in the summer of 2024!

Paid subscribers have access to all the extra written materials about Citizens United below, including a short summary of the case, the full written decision, and an abridged one.

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0:00.0

The ruling said there's, you know, freedom of expression in the United States, and that should not be denied to corporations and that corporations have the same rights as people, which if you were a corporation, I could see why you would want that.

0:17.0

But I think most of us don't think corporations are people.

0:21.8

And so the idea that it was applied to corporations is, let's be honest, really crazy

0:29.7

and corrupt because corporations have their interests.

0:33.9

So if you're an oil company and you have almost a trillion dollars, that's a lot of

0:40.7

ability to hypnotize people to believe that the world is not on fire right now.

0:49.8

Hi, I'm Neil Katyal and welcome to Courtside, a podcast about the Supreme Court and what it means to you.

0:56.9

I've argued 50 cases at the Supreme Court and served as the federal government's top courtroom lawyer.

1:03.3

But I want the court to come alive for you.

1:06.3

Each week, I discuss a single Supreme Court case with one guest, someone who's not a lawyer and who

1:12.6

can translate the case into plain English. A reminder that all my episodes are posted over at

1:18.4

neilkatial.substack.com, along with a bunch of bonus stuff. You can also support the show there,

1:25.3

or sign up for free, so that each episode of court side

1:28.5

lands right in your email. That's neilcateal.substack.com. On my substack each week, you'll get

1:36.0

access as a subscriber to all sorts of information about the case. I've summarized the case

1:41.7

in a three-pager, abridge the actual text of the decision, and provided the full decision.

1:48.0

All of that is available to you as a paid subscriber.

1:51.0

I'm donating all my profits to charity, but production of this thing costs quite a bit,

1:56.2

and I'm not running any ads at all on this podcast.

1:59.5

We are entirely listener supported.

2:01.8

So please do sign up at neilcateal.substack.com.

2:07.1

My guest today is Judd Apatow, a man who truly needs no introduction.

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