Courts Reject Donald Trump's January 6th Immunity Claim
Justice Matters with Glenn Kirschner
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🗓️ 2 December 2023
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
In our longform weekend podcast Glenn runs down his legal recap stories of the week. He begins with the new reporting that Jennifer Little, one of Donald Trump's current lawyers, told a grand jury overseen by Special Counsel Jack Smith that within days of the DOJ issuing a subpoena last year for all the classified documents Trump had at his Florida home, she "very clearly" warned the former president that if he did not comply "it's going to be a crime". Then, newly disclosed text messages between Rep. Scott "Pardon Me" Perry and Trump co-conspirator/co-defendant Jeffrey Clark reveal that Perry was in the thick of Trump's conspiracy to unlawfully cling to power. Glenn says the question now becomes, does the DOJ finally have enough evidence to indict Perry? If you recall, Perry requested a pardon for his apparent crimes on and around January 6th. Next recap story, reported first by The Guardian, "Georgia Prosecutors Oppose Plea Deals for Trump, Meadows and Giuliani." Glenn discusses why this is an important and necessary development in the RICO case. Then, the appellate court in New York reimposed the gag order Judge Engoron placed on Donald Trump in an effort to stop Trump from endangering the court staff. Glenn says more people will get harassed unless his pretrial release is revoked. And finally, a federal appeals court has determined that Trump isn't immune from civil lawsuits related to the January 6th attack at the capitol. Glenn says this a bellwether of what will happen in other court cases.
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for Justice Matters with former federal prosecutor and MS NBC analyst Glenn Kirchner. In our long form weekend podcast, Glenn runs down his legal recap stories of the week. |
| 0:20.8 | He begins with the new reporting that a former Trump attorney told him that he |
| 0:25.2 | would be breaking the law if he didn't comply with the subpoena in the classified |
| 0:29.4 | documents case. |
| 0:30.4 | Hey all, Glenn Kirsner here. |
| 0:34.0 | Welcome to the Weekend Edition of Justice Matters, my audio podcast. |
| 0:38.4 | It is time to air out the legal issues of the past week and I feel like we may need to do a speed round |
| 0:46.7 | today because there were quite a few legal developments over the course of the past several days. |
| 0:54.6 | Frankly, most of them were good. |
| 0:57.7 | A couple of them were really good. |
| 1:00.5 | And I want to start with one of the really good ones. I mean, this is, you know, probably about an 8.5 on the legal Richter scale. I think in normal times it would be an 11 |
| 1:16.2 | on the legal Richter scale because it involves |
| 1:18.6 | one of Donald Trump's own lawyers providing sharply incriminating information about the crimes of |
| 1:28.3 | Donald Trump, providing that information to Special Counsel Jack Smith, |
| 1:33.6 | providing that information to the federal grand jury |
| 1:37.9 | that investigated and indicted |
| 1:41.0 | Donald Trump for his crimes and this attorney will undoubtedly, will inevitably be providing |
| 1:50.2 | this sharply incriminating evidence to the trial jury once Donald Trump is |
| 1:57.5 | hauled into court and is finally made to account for his crimes and I want to start by reading a little bit of the new |
| 2:06.7 | reporting by the New York Times about this lawyer, her name is Jennifer Little, |
| 2:12.8 | and the really damning evidence |
| 2:15.3 | she provides against her former client, Donald Trump. |
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