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The Dispatch Podcast

Courts Cancel Liberation Day | Roundtable

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.4 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Mike Warren is joined by David French, Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes, and Grayson Logue to discuss the latest legal challenges to the Trump administration’s Liberation Day tariffs and the most recent round of presidential pardons. The Agenda:—The Cases That Could Stop Trump’s Tariffs—Will Trump double down on tariffs?—Openly corrupt pardons—Can the courts save American politics?—Trump’s transactional politics—Russia-Ukraine peace talks—A new Putin—NWYT: Communal kid discipline? Show Notes—Ilya Somin for The Dispatch—Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on The Remnant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the dispatch podcast. I'm Michael Warren. We've got Steve Hayes, Jonah Goldberg,

0:37.3

and David French.

0:53.3

We're going to be talking about the latest developments in trade policy.

0:57.2

Have the courts really just canceled Liberation Day?

1:00.6

And pardon us for noticing, but President Donald Trump has been wielding that pardon power like it's going out of style, with all sorts of questionable characters getting their slates wiped clean.

1:10.7

We'll discuss, and then we'll check in on how Trump and Vladimir Putin are, well, not really getting along.

1:16.4

Is the American president finally abandoning his bromance with the Russian strongman?

1:20.8

And, of course, we'll save some time at the end for a little not worth your time.

1:26.1

Okay, first, we need to talk about this big decision

1:28.7

coming out of the U.S. Court of International Trade on Wednesday, and for that, we're going to

1:33.2

bring in a ringer. Dispatch staff writer Grayson Logue is on with all of us to explain what

1:38.3

happened and what to expect, because Grayson just happened to have written a quite prescient

1:43.1

piece last month for the dispatch

1:44.7

entitled The Cases That Could Stop Trump's Tariffs.

1:49.4

Grayson, welcome back and tell us, have the Trump tariffs been stopped?

1:53.9

We had this decision on Wednesday.

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