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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

Courtroom Secrets, Tattoo Clues, and a Cruise Ship Death Under Federal Investigation

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Just when you think it’s safe to step back into the courtroom, another week proves otherwise. On this episode of Crime Roundup, Sheryl McCollum and Joshua Schiffer dig into the newly released Karen Read transcripts that reveal what really happened behind the bench, the face-tattooed suspect raising eyebrows in the Celeste Rivas investigation, and a cruise ship death now under federal review. Together, they take on the week’s most unsettling cases the only way they know how: with sharp insight, hard facts, and a measured dose of humor.

Highlights:

• (0:00) Welcome to Crime Roundup with Sheryl McCollum and Joshua Schiffer

• (1:15) Karen Read updates: prosecution releases sidebar transcripts and what they reveal

• (4:45) The reality of “bench conferences” and how they shape public perception of justice

• (6:00) When prosecutors overcharge: discretion, burden of proof, and why it matters

• (9:15) “Creep Factor” cases and the week’s most unsettling stories, featuring an update

in the Celeste Rivas investigation

• (17:15) Cultural assumptions and the hidden bias in courtroom decision-making

• (21:30) Death penalty leverage, coerced confessions, and systemic pressure

• (22:45) Cruise ship tragedy: an 18-year-old cheerleader found dead under a bed, and what investigators know so far

• (27:45) Ripple effects: trauma across families, classmates, and communities

• (28:15) Finding gratitude in chaos: Joshua’s ATV story and the beauty in everyday moments


About the Hosts

Joshua Schiffer is a veteran trial attorney and one of the Southeast’s most respected legal voices. He is a founding partner at ChancoSchiffer P.C., where he has litigated high-stakes criminal, civil rights, and personal injury cases for over two decades. Known for his bold courtroom presence and ability to clearly explain complex legal issues, Schiffer is a frequent media contributor and a fearless advocate for accountability.

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an active crime scene investigator for a Metro Atlanta Police Department and the director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, which partners with colleges and universities nationwide. With more than 4 decades of experience, she has worked on thousands of cold cases using her investigative system, The Last 24/361, which integrates evidence, media, and advanced forensic testing. Her work on high-profile cases, including The Boston Strangler, Natalie Holloway, Tupac Shakur and the Moore’s Ford Bridge lynching, earned her an Emmy Award for CSI: Atlanta and induction into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame in 2023.

Preorder Sheryl’s upcoming book, Swans Don’t Swim in a Sewer: Lessons in Life,

Justice, and Joy from a Forensic Scientist, releasing May 2026 from Simon and Schuster.

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Swans-Dont-Swim-in-a-Sewer/Sheryl-MacMcCollum/9798895652824

 

Want more from Sheryl?

Catch her every week on the Zone 7 podcast, where she hosts the main series on Wednesdays,Pathology with Dr. Priya on Mondays, and Crime Roundup each Friday alongside Joshua Schiffer.

Subscribe using your favorite podcast platform and leave a review to support the show. Have a case or topic you’d like Sheryl and Joshua to cover? Email [email protected]

 

Follow the Hosts:

• Sheryl on X: @ColdCaseTips

• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

• Joshua on X and Instagram: @lawyerschiff

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:12.4

Joshua Schiffer, let me tell you something.

0:15.4

Do you remember Jaws, too?

0:17.3

Yes, yes.

0:19.9

I am of a certain age where there are decades that I do remember.

0:25.6

Yes.

0:26.6

Do you remember when it came on the screen and it said just when you thought it was safe to go back in the walk?

0:34.6

Oh no, my dear.

0:35.6

It is never safe.

0:36.6

It is never, ever, ever safe.

0:39.5

I assure you, I've seen the boat. That is how I feel. Just when I thought it was safe to go back

0:47.4

in a courtroom, Karen Reed, Karen Reed, Karen Reed. Hey, at least it's a case.

0:55.0

At least it's not just some of the conjecture,

0:59.0

yelling, screaming, you know, shaking,

1:03.0

gasping corpse of the cottage industry

1:06.0

that was Karen Reid's initial trials.

1:09.0

This is a legitimate Karen Reed story.

1:12.5

Okay. There's rumors of white flags being waived. Tell us what in the world the prosecution is doing.

1:19.8

Well, the prosecution's kind of giving up the ghost on some of these things that they were trying to

1:24.5

protect, namely these sidebars, where sidebars, and we

1:29.2

watch these trials are where the litigants and sometimes, or always the lawyers, and sometimes

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