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Live Inspired Podcast with John O'Leary

Courage to Grieve with Mattie Jackson Selecman (ep. 428)

Live Inspired Podcast with John O'Leary

John O'Leary

Self-improvement, Bestsellingauthor, Education, Dailyinspiration, Society & Culture, Liveinspired, Johnoleary, Inspiration, Joebuck, Inspiredliving, Onfire, Relationships

4.9672 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Mattie Jackson Selecman dreamt of being an author, yet she never expected her first book Lemons On Friday would be about the tragic + unexpected loss of her beloved husband of 11 months.

Daughter of country megastar Alan Jackson and New York Times bestselling author Denise Jackson, Mattie became a widow at 28 years old and was forced to navigate a future drastically different from the one she had planned. Relying on her faith, she embarked on a deeply personal journey through devastating loss and the difficult dance that followed.

This conversation is a reminder that no heartbreak or loss is unredeemable and by confidently clinging to hope, we can truly heal.

SHOW NOTES:

  • Value of work + humility: Growing up in the quintessential country music family, Mattie is grateful for how her parents raised her and her siblings.
  • In her book, It's All About Him, Mattie's mom Denise candidly shared her and Alan's marital struggles, giving Mattie the confidence to share her own difficult journey.
  • Intrigued by the history, science and art of wine, Mattie spent six years owning a wine bar restaurant.
  • "You are the sweetest and best thing that ever happened to me." Mattie describes her late-husband Ben as joyful, abundant and filled with momentum for each day.
  • Eleven months into their marriage, Ben suffered a fatal traumatic brain injury while vacationing in Florida.
  • Nearly a year later, Mattie surrendered, chose to trust God and did not need to understand the "why" of her loss.
  • Advice to those with friends, families and others close to someone experiencing a devastating loss:
    • It’s less about what you do and more about being present.
    • In the midst of being emotionally, mentally and physically exhausted, open-ended questions are overwhelming. Direct questions like “do you want to get lunch today or can I drop something off?” helped her manage to make even the simplest decisions.
  • During difficult moments, such as baby showers, Mattie would recite Romans 12:15: Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.
  • Through researching heaven, Mattie found comfort in knowing where Ben was. Books that helped her were Randy Alcorn's Heaven and John Burke's Imagine Heaven.
  • Approaching the two-year anniversary of Ben's death, Mattie wrote Racing the Dark, sung by her father, to fight the instinct to run away and find the courage to face challenges.
  • "Grief is less about learning not to hurt. It's more about learning how you hurt and how to navigate it."
  • Learn more about Mattie's give-back company NaSHEville, which helps women and children in need-specifically orphans, widows, and trafficked women, here.
  • Get a copy of Mattie Jackson Selecman's Lemons On Friday here.

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

My hometown of St. Louis is an awesome baseball town. For those of you who know my story, you know that story. You know the impact of the St. Louis Cardinals and Jack Buck and baseball on my life. You also know it's a phenomenal hockey town. And for those who have read the book on fire or know the impact of the St. Louis Blues, not only in this community,

0:22.1

but also on a little boy named John O'Leary, you know that it's a hockey town as well.

0:26.3

What you may not know is the town keeps expanding.

0:29.7

We are now, drum roll please, a soccer town as well.

0:35.7

That's right.

0:36.1

We've been a soccer town for a while,

0:37.5

but now it's official with MLS moving to St. Louis.

0:40.8

And our friends at Keeley companies are proud construction partners

0:45.1

in building the new stadium downtown St. Louis,

0:48.2

focusing on applying their extensive building experience,

0:51.8

their commitment to developing,

0:53.4

and then implementing a successful

0:55.2

workforce development with diversity inclusion. Keeley Company's CEO and my friend Rusty Keeley said

1:01.6

this. We are honored to be part of the project of creating a positive legacy in St. Louis.

1:07.9

Learn more about that project and other projects going on at Keely Companies by

1:12.0

visiting them right now online at keelie Companies.com. Welcome to the Live Inspired podcast with

1:22.5

John O'Leary. John is the number one national bestselling author of the book On Fire.

1:28.2

He's a world-class inspirational speaker and he's the host of the Live-inspired podcast.

1:33.2

John interviews extraordinary individuals on their life story so that you can wake up from accidental living and more fully live your life story.

1:43.0

Here's your host, John O'Leary.

1:45.8

Well, hello, my friends, and welcome to the live-inspired podcast with John O'Leary.

1:51.7

We've got another wonderful live-inspired podcast episode in store for you today.

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