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Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Courage | EP 10 | Karoline's Story

Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

iHeartPodcasts | Glass Podcasts

True Crime, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.6 • 655 Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jennifer Freyd, the leading expert in betrayal trauma, breaks down what separates betrayal from other traumatic experiences.  For more on betrayal blindness, read Blind to Betrayal by Dr. Jennifer Freyd and Dr. Pamela Birrell. 

For more on institutional betrayal and institutional courage, check out the Center for Institutional Courage. 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.4

Hi, everyone.

0:05.8

We wanted to let you know that this is our final episode of season four and Caroline

0:10.4

Berega's story.

0:11.9

But don't worry, there's a lot more betrayal coming your way.

0:15.7

We will be returning on Thursday, August 7th, with a brand new season of Betrayal Weekly.

0:20.6

Be sure to subscribe to make sure

0:22.4

you never miss an episode. And there's more Betrayal news. If Betrayal is your must listen,

0:28.2

you should subscribe to Beyond Betrayal, our new substack community. It's free to join and

0:33.3

packed with the extras we can't squeeze into the show. Our team shares behind-the-scenes conversations,

0:39.6

never-before-seen videos, and personal essays from the survivors you've met on the series,

0:44.9

including Caroline, Stacey, Ashley, and me. Upgraded members can even jump into live chats

0:50.9

with us. Ready to dig deeper? Click the link in the show notes or visit

0:55.5

Betrayal.substack.com. Hit subscribe and join for free today. Okay. Now onto the show.

1:05.3

There was a woman whose husband was eventually arrested for sexually abusing children in a school.

1:13.3

And the police found all these stacks of child pornography sitting around his living room

1:19.2

in plain sight. And they interviewed his wife. And she said she did not see them.

1:28.3

She could have her eyes on them and not see them.

1:44.1

I'm Andre Gunning and this is Betrayal, Season 4, Episode 10.

1:49.2

Courage.

1:55.8

In our last episode, we closed the book on Caroline's story.

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