Hi everybody. Welcome to another episode of Alter Call. I am your host, Tane, here to talk about

couples therapy season five, episode two. Here with me, as always, when he comes to couples therapy, is Jen.

Hi, Jen.

How are you?

I am up and early and ready to go this morning.

Welcome to everybody from Indonesia, from Bali.

We're going to get this day started right.

Yes, as always, you know, since Jen is still over in the other continent of Asia, we have like

a 12 hours, right?

Yeah.

Between us.

So, you know, we're making it work, making it work.

But we get a cold open with this episode, starting with Sienna and Chris, if you recall.

Chris is the one who looks like a hell's angel.

He's tattooed from head, literally, to toe.

And his wife is, how do I describe her?

The high-strung wife who seems checked out and just like, you have a husband,

but I don't even recognize that he's there. That's them. So yeah, we get a cold open with

Chris telling Orner that he, oh, I'm sorry. I described. There we go. That was Jason.

Jason's still learning the couples, guys. So, so sorry. This couple is the couple that were 13 years married. Chris cheated on Sienna and they're working through it. He's the one who paid people to cuddle and that led to cheating. So, so sorry. That's a different couple. So we're back on track.

Yes. She's the one that I so rudely call Rachel Dulles. Yes. So yes, third times a charm. We get a cold open with Chris telling Orna that he has an idea why he betrayed Sienna. But for it to make

sense, he has to hear more about his childhood. And I cackled because Jen had mentioned in episode

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