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Intelligence Matters

Country's Top Spy-Catcher Bill Evanina on Espionage Threats

Intelligence Matters

CBS News

Politics, News, Government

4.73.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2018

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with William Evanina, Director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center, about the top counterintelligence threats facing the United States. Evanina shares his experience tracking the operational activities of Russian agents in the so-called "illegals" network that culminated in a U.S.-Russia prisoner exchange in 2010. He explains how Russia's ongoing tactical efforts today target critical infrastructure and elections systems, and details the risks posed by non-traditional collection efforts by China. He also tells Morell what other countries are on his "worry list" of increasingly sophisticated espionage challenges.

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0:12.8

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0:18.1

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0:19.8

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0:26.5

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0:29.0

This is the Intelligence Matters Podcast with former acting director of the CIA, Michael

0:33.8

Morel, sponsored by Raytheon.

0:38.2

Right now, China is number one.

0:39.8

It's not close.

0:40.8

They have a strategic plan to overtake us economically.

0:44.0

So, exoscentually, long-term, they're the largest threat to our national security burn

0:48.6

none.

0:49.6

The Russians, very more tactical, very more interested, but noisier, louder, and they get

0:56.8

caught more frequently.

0:59.6

What do you think is the most important lesson from what the Russians did in 2016?

1:04.0

That they're willing to do it again.

1:05.4

People can argue all day long whether or not it had an impact on an election.

1:08.9

My answer is they've already won.

1:10.7

It's on cable news every night in the paper every day.

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