Hi, I'm Kate.

And I'm Lori.

We've always thought that the most compelling stories

strike the perfect balance between an honest look at the mess of life

and the humor that can be found in the mess.

To be honest, we don't really know how to live life

without both the humor and the authenticity.

Our podcast might be a little bit of whiplash at times.

We can spend from hard and deep to humor and laughing on a dime.

The hard will be really hard and the truths we share are the ugliest of humanity. We don't intend to

make it seem like it's all fine or to pretty up the pain, but we also know that the joy we found

is all the more profound because of the pain. So we hope that you can stick with us through

the ugly because there will also be joy and hope and humor. Welcome to the ugly truth about

the girl next door. Now a mezzo allies program bridging the gap to safety. Hi, welcome back to our

podcast. The Ugly Truth About the Girl Next Door. I'm Kate and I'm Lori.

And we're back. Today we are bringing you an episode continuation of our topic around the Epstein files.

But today, more broadly, we want to talk about our justice system and how it's experienced by victims.

We really want to focus on the realities of how the system actually

works versus the perception of what maybe the general public believes the system, the way the

system works and doesn't work on behalf of actual justice and the victims that it's meant to

serve. So we are talking today, again, about the Epstein files and really highlighting on that like massive grand

scale that we're seeing all that unfold this reality but we also want people to connect to the fact

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