Counting Russia’s war dead
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 18 April 2023
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
The BBC has been calculating the number of Russians who have died in the war and civilian recruits make up a third of their frontline losses. Olga Ivshina of BBC Russian and Mark Urban, diplomatic editor at Newsnight, explain what this means for Russian families and the course of the conflict.
And we hear from the director of the Kherson regional art museum, Alina Dotsenko, about the moment its treasures were taken away in unmarked vehicles.
Today’s episode is presented by Lyse Doucet and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Clare Williamson and Luke Radcliff. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.6 | It's 419 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:10.0 | A week ago, here on Ukraine cast, we heard the words of Vladimir Karamuzah as he gave |
| 0:17.3 | his last statement to the Korten Moscow. |
| 0:20.4 | Yesterday, he was convicted of treason and discrediting the Russian army, handed the |
| 0:26.7 | longest sentence yet, to any opponent of President Vladimir Putin and the war in Ukraine, |
| 0:33.4 | a sentence of 25 years. |
| 0:36.8 | Mr. Karamuzah's reply was, Russia will be free. |
| 0:41.2 | Tell everyone. |
| 0:42.8 | In words, read out by his lawyer, Karamuzah said he was undefeated and did not back |
| 0:50.3 | down. |
| 0:51.3 | He said, my self-esteem has gone up, I realized that I did everything right. |
| 1:01.3 | 25 years is the highest score I could get for what I did, for what I believe in, as a citizen, |
| 1:07.5 | as a patriot, as a politician. |
| 1:09.2 | How do you say it, Karamuzah is a Russian-British citizen, so the UK's ambassador to Moscow |
| 1:19.5 | named Debra Bronert had harsh words, as she called for his release. |
| 1:32.8 | Words backed by her American counterpart, Lintrese. |
| 1:36.6 | Criminalization of criticism of government action is a sign of weakness, not strength. |
| 1:45.6 | We support the right of Mr. Karamuzah and every Russian citizen to have a voice in the |
| 1:52.6 | direction of their country. |
| 1:55.5 | And it was this speech to the Arizona legislature on the 15th of March last year that led to |
| 2:00.6 | his arrest, almost the moment he returned to Russia, enact, which in all likelihood |
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