Counterintuitive Ideas About Marriage, Family, and Kids

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

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🗓️ 27 November 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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There are a lot of popular ideas out there around marriage, family, and culture, like, for example, that living together before marriage decreases your chances of divorce, people are having fewer children because children are expensive to raise, and society is becoming more secular because people leave religion in adulthood. Are these ideas actually born out by the data? Today we put that question to Lyman Stone, a sociologist and demographer who crunches numbers from all the latest studies to find out what’s going on in population, relationship, and familial trends. We dig into some of the counterintuitive findings he’s discovered in his research and discuss the possible reasons that cohabitation is actually correlated with a higher chance of divorce, the effect that marrying later has on fertility, why the drop in the number of kids people are having isn’t only about cost but also about the rise in high intensity parenting, and how the increase in societal secularization can actually be traced to kids, not adults.s

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0:00.0	Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness
0:10.4	Podcast there are a lot of popular ideas out there around marriage, family, and culture.
0:15.8	Like, for example, that living together before marriage decreases your chances of divorce,
0:20.8	people are having fewer children because children are expensive to raise and
0:23.9	society is becoming more secular because people leave religion in adulthood.
0:28.2	Are these ideas actually borne out by the data?
0:31.3	Today we put that question to Lyman Stone, a sociologist and demographer who crunches
0:35.5	numbers from all the latest studies to find out what's going on in population, relationship,
0:40.0	and familial
0:43.2	findings he's discovered in his research and discuss the possible reasons that
0:46.3	cohabitation is actually correlated with a higher chance of divorce,
0:49.4	the effect that marrying later has on fertility, why the drop in the number of kids people
0:54.2	are having isn't only about cost but also about the rise in high intensity parenting,
0:58.0	and how the increase in societal secularization can actually be traced to kids, not adults.
1:04.0	After the show is over, Welcome to the show.
1:14.0	All right, Linenstone, welcome to the show.
1:21.0	It's good to be with you. So you are a research fellow at
1:24.4	the Institute for Family Studies and you focus on demographic changes in family life and
1:30.9	a lot of your research has looked at a lot of popular ideas
1:35.2	that we have about family life. Today I want to talk about some of these ideas
1:39.8	and maybe some of the counterintuitive findings you found with your research.
1:45.2	One idea that's out there is that before people get married, you should live with your potential
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