Greg, brother, we're blessed to have you with us, man.

So encouraged by what the Lord's been doing in and through your life.

You've been working, again, with Fortis for a long time, the Transform podcast, the television series that you do,

which includes counseling people.

You're the chair of the School of Biblical Studies at the Masters University fellow at the Fordis Institute.

And you pastor, you counsel. Man, you do a lot of stuff. You served in the

military too. Sure, yeah. Today we're going to be talking about the unbiblical errors of psychiatry

and psychology. And this is sparked by an amazing, amazing book you wrote. Lies, my therapist told me

why Christians should aim for more than just treating

symptoms. This is a phenomenal book. Someone in one of the endorsements I think said that they thought

this is going to kind of be the authoritative work on this subject. And I really think it is going to be.

I was encouraged. I was personally edified, especially, man, that last chapter

about Christ. I mean, I was reading it and just worshiping the Lord. And so we're excited to have

you with us. Tell us what's been behind the book and how it's been doing so far.

You just look behind the book. Your name is behind the book. No, it was a, I mean, honestly, as a counselor, there's always a bunch of methods that seem odd, things that come up.

And sometimes as a Christian, it's just like, I don't know if these things are actually dealing with the root of the issue.

So instead of just critiquing all those downstream things, it was really the beginning of me trying to figure out why as Christians do we use those, what's happening? Are those things really treating the root of the cause? And that's where the book came in, where I wanted to help speak to what are the ideas behind modern day therapy secular psychology

psychiatry and are they really helping us or are they making things worse so like that's how the

trajectory started and that was probably three years ago just starting to think that through

and do that research you know when we talk about counseling right it kind of falls into many

different sorts of categories.

But here in particular, maybe you can give a working definition of a, what does it mean to have biblical counseling?

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