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This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley.

In the battleground state of Michigan, the uncommitted,

a pro-Palestinian group made up of Muslim, Arab American, and college-age voters,

confirmed last week that they are not endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for president

out of concern for how the US is handling the Israel-Hamas war.

But they also said they're not in support of former President Donald Trump or any other

third-party candidate.

My guest today, New Yorker staff writer Andrew

Marantz, recently spent time in Michigan to understand the scope and size of

the uncommitted movement and its potential impact on the November presidential election.

The group first launched in Michigan before expanding to other states,

and it made the decision not to back Harris after the Vice President did not respond

to their request to meet with the loved ones of Palestinians who were killed in Gaza.

The group also wanted to meet directly with Harris to talk about an arms embargo on Israel.

Vice President Harris has held steady on her views and policy,

expressing sympathy for both Israelis and Palestinians, while also repeating her stance that

Israel has the right to defend itself and the need for a two-state

solution, much to the dismay of the uncommitted, who feel Harris has not strayed far from President

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