Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?
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🗓️ 16 February 2026
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| 0:19.4 | You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. |
| 0:25.4 | Hey, shortwavers, science correspondent Nate Roth here, filling in for Emily and Regina. |
| 0:30.4 | Today we're going to talk about a global disease that's long-hammered, sub-Saharan Africa, |
| 0:34.7 | particularly hard, HIV. |
| 0:37.4 | Specifically, we're going to talk about a vaccine to fight HIV. |
| 0:41.9 | So Ari Daniel, for those who don't recognize your dulcetones, is a freelance science reporter. |
| 0:47.2 | And Ari, I hear there's a pretty remarkable backstory to this vaccine we're going to talk about. |
| 0:52.3 | That is correct. |
| 0:53.5 | Okay, so where do you want to start? |
| 0:56.3 | All right. |
| 0:57.3 | Right here, Nate, inside a lab at the National Institute for Communicable Diseases in Johannesburg, South Africa. |
| 1:04.0 | It's arrayed with, if you can picture it, half a dozen large green and white freezers. |
| 1:10.0 | These are the freezers that contain samples |
| 1:12.6 | that are the basis of everything we do in the lab. |
| 1:15.4 | This is Penny Moore. |
| 1:16.5 | She's a virologist at the University of at Buderstrand. |
| 1:20.1 | Our freezers are named after the seven dwarves. |
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