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So we all know the agenda that the right wingers are promoting, you know,

let's outlaw social security and Medicare, let's call them socialism, like the Republicans got 109

Democrats to sign onto this bizarre resolution last week in the House of Representatives,

do away with taxes and all, I mean, just all kinds of bizarre stuff.

But what if they actually got together and rewrote the Constitution to remake it in the image of,

for example, David Koch's 1980 run for Vice President, where they openly called for the end of

Medicare, Medicaid, all welfare programs, the IRS, the Post Office, to turn all public roads into

toll roads with billionaires collecting the tolls, et cetera, et cetera. What if they actually did that?

Well, they may be closer than you think. Vicki Harrison is with us, the Director of the

Constitutional Convention in Protecting Descent Programs at Common Cause.org.

Vicki's Twitter handle is V-I-K-I-E Harrison or at Common Cause.

And of course, Common Cause.org, you can read all about it. Vicki, welcome to the program.

Tell us about this Article 5 Convention of the States. You might want to start with

what Article 5 is and how this works. Thank you so much for having me, Tom,

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