Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of putting as many megapixels as you possibly can into your selfie camera.

I'm a friend David Pierce, and I am slowly losing my mind, if I'm being completely honest with you.

So like I mentioned last week on the show, I am shopping for a new phone.

This is a very fun thing for me to do. For a long time, I was a

phone reviewer, so I lived a totally abnormal phone life. I would switch phones like every

six weeks based on what I was reviewing. But for the last five years, maybe, I have been

an iPhone person. I have, I have had an iPhone, and then another iPhone an iPhone and then another iPhone and then another iPhone,

all the way up until this iPhone 16. So I figured I am now like a normal person in terms of my phone

use, but I am not a normal person in that I have access to all the other phones by virtue of what I do for a living.

So I was like, okay, I'm going to get all the phones, try all the phones.

It's going to be great. So the first one I got is this, Motorola Razor. I have been shilling for flip phones on this podcast for a long time. I figured I'd put my money where my mouth is and just try this thing out for real. All went fine, got it set up, it's charged, it's updated, phone works, okay. there's a lot of weird AI pop-ups that I don't love. But we're getting there. Except I'm trying to switch my e-sim from my iPhone to my razor. And this is supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be software. There's an app that you download. You say, I want to activate on this phone. And it never, ever works. And it's driving me up the wall. So I have to call Verizon. I think I have to go to the store. It's going to be a whole thing. This completely

defeats the purpose of e-sims and all of this. What are we doing, people? Anyway, by this time next week, I hope to have a real honest-to-god update for you on my adventures switching to Android. I'm going to try a bunch of different phones. Thank you to everybody who has called in and written in with ideas about stuff I should test. I have a flip phone. I have a folding phone. I have a regular phone. I have a bunch of funky phones. I'm going to get a

couple of phones with keyboards to see if like the Blackberry Renaissance is real and worth pursuing.

I have a lot of stuff to test. If and only if I can figure out how to get my stupid phone number

ported from here to here, which is not supposed to be hard, but here we are. Anyway, that is near the

here and right there. Today in the show, we're going to do two things. First, Dom Preston is

going to come on and tell us about the Trump phone because he did something relatively

unthinkable and what I thought was impossible, which is that he has seen the Trump phone,

and he's going to tell us about it.

I'm very excited. Then Hayden Field from The Verge is going to come on and tell us about

OpenClaw and MaltBook and this sort of fascinating moment in AI agents that were happening.

What if AI agents could use your computer and could talk to each other? Wild times in the AI

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