Could the India-Pakistan Conflict Escalate?

Newscast

BBC

Politics, News

4.4 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Today, we’re looking at the conflict between India and Pakistan.

On Tuesday night, India launched missile strikes in Pakistan and Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

Adam talks to the BBC’s international editor Jeremy Bowen and Journalist Arunoday Mukharji about what’s happening, how Pakistan is reacting, and whether things could get worse.

Americast’s Justin Webb also joins for a behind-the-scenes look at Joe Biden’s first interview since leaving the White House with the person who did it… the Today programme’s Nick Robinson. You can now listen to Newscast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Newscast”. It works on most smart speakers. You can join our Newscast online community here: https://discord.gg/m3YPUGv9

New episodes released every day. If you're in the UK, for more News and Current Affairs podcasts from the BBC, listen on BBC Sounds: https://bit.ly/3ENLcS1 Newscast brings you daily analysis of the latest political news stories from the BBC. It was presented by Adam Fleming. It was made by Chris Flynn with Shiler Mahmoudi, Julia Webster, and Kris Jalowiecki. The technical producer was Michael Regaard. The assistant editor is Chris Gray. The editor is Sam Bonham.

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.
0:04.9	Hello, it's quarter to eight on Wednesday evening in the UK,
0:08.4	and the entire world is watching a live feed of a chimney from the Vatican.
0:12.6	We're waiting for the Cardinals who've been in their first day of their top secret conclave
0:17.1	to pick the next Pope.
0:19.4	Nothing happening yet. No smoke of any colour. Remember, it's
0:23.3	white if there is a pope, black if there isn't a decision. And we thought we would call in
0:28.1	VE Day commentator extraordinaire, because he did such a good job that day, Paddy O'Connell,
0:34.6	to give a sense of the mood of watching the chimney. Hello, at a secret location, hundreds of miles from Rome, I'm Paddy O'Connell for Newscast.
0:44.2	Close to the newscast studio and watching, along with millions around the world, the scene on the
0:49.4	TV of the small chimney atop the Sistine Chapel in Rome. It's standing there, famous image as it is, with a little hat on top of it, a little cowling
0:59.0	on top of it to protect it from the rain.
1:02.0	Behind it on the apex of the roof, one seagull, stubbornly standing atop the roof, sometimes
1:09.0	joined by a mate, sometimes driving off a pigeon.
1:13.2	So we await smoke and the timeless signal of a decision taken by the Cardinals in the 16th
1:19.9	What a pro. I mean, if you haven't watched the live stream, that's basically what it looks like.
1:24.4	And Paddy captured that moment where you're just waiting for something.
1:28.6	But you know the waiting is very important. And we wanted to be definitive. And so we waited to publish this episode until we got the black smoke to say that there was no Pope chosen.
1:38.9	It's all taking way longer than anyone expected. So we thought we would just push on and publish the episode we recorded during the day on Wednesday. And if there is white smoke, because the Cardinals
1:49.2	have chosen a new leader for the global Catholic Church, then there will be an extra bonus
1:54.2	episode of Newscast to go alongside this episode of Newscast.
1:58.8	Newscast from the BBC.
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