Could the Florida Gerrymander Blow Up on the GOP? (w/ Marc Caputo)
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🗓️ 28 April 2026
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
Sam Stein welcomes Axios' Marc Caputo to discuss Florida’s new redistricting map—and the legal storm it’s about to trigger. Governor Ron DeSantis has unveiled a plan that could shift Florida’s congressional delegation from 20–8 to as much as 24–4 in favor of Republicans. But there’s a major problem: Florida’s constitution explicitly bans partisan gerrymandering. So how is this happening?
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone, it's me, Sam Stein, managing out the bulwark. |
| 0:02.5 | And I am joined by a familiar face. |
| 0:05.2 | Everyone has been longing for him to grace this channel and record a bulwark take. |
| 0:10.9 | We have Mark Caputo. |
| 0:13.2 | Hey, Sam. |
| 0:13.9 | What's up, buddy? |
| 0:14.6 | How are you doing? |
| 0:15.1 | It's good to be back. |
| 0:15.9 | It's great to have you back. |
| 0:17.7 | So Mark's here to talk about his home state of Florida. There is a redistricting map that |
| 0:24.3 | has been released by Governor Ron DeSantis. Mark knows this stuff inside and out. I don't trust him on |
| 0:30.3 | anything else, but on this one, I will trust him. So we're going to dive into it. Mark, before we get |
| 0:36.0 | into the actual particulars of the map, the reason I wanted to have you on is because you know the Florida law. And you've been, I'm reading between the lines a little bit, but not too much. I feel like you've been a little bit skeptical, dubious perhaps, about the legality of this because Florida's got a fairly straightforward constitution when it comes to redistricting, |
| 0:55.1 | which says you can't do it for partisan ends, right? Is that my read? |
| 0:58.4 | Right. You can't intend to favor or disfavor an incumbent or political party. |
| 1:03.7 | Okay. So tell us how that law. You can't draw district lines to favor or disfavor. |
| 1:09.6 | So what is that law? Where did that law come from? |
| 1:11.4 | And how strict is it? |
| 1:13.2 | In 2010, 63% roughly of Florida voters voted on two amendments called the Fair District |
| 1:20.2 | Amendments that limited legislative redistricting, the way we just described and congressional |
| 1:26.5 | ones. |
| 1:27.3 | And it's one of very few things |
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